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Shrek
I just saw Shrek , I mean Shrek the 1st one.It was great.I wonder why and how did i miss it for so long.Well, i'm glad that i was able see it now atleast.It was a great film , it has the flavor and a wonderful hilarious comedy for both chlidren and adults alike.Well for those of you who haven't seen shrek yet my only advice is better go see it. Now its my turn to see Shrek 2 which has broken box office records knocking down Spider man 1.
Monday, July 19, 2004 at 12:13 AM
Monday, July 19, 2004 at 12:13 AM
Veg Web
We humans are naturaly meant to be vegetarians and I can list a whole bunch of facts and reasons to anyone who disagrees.A while back I found this great website with tons of recipes and all of them are listed and categorized by ethnicity and country so those of you who enjoy veggie delights . . . http://vegweb.com/
at 12:35 AM
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"The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams."
I just love this quote and i believe in it too, it was said by Eleanor Roosevelt. Thursday, July 08, 2004 at 8:05 PM
I just love this quote and i believe in it too, it was said by Eleanor Roosevelt. Thursday, July 08, 2004 at 8:05 PM
Tamil needed to be honoured
It's fabulous news that Tamil will finally get its due. But meanwhile, the most-quoted person these days in the universe of discourse must be George L. Hart, professor of Tamil since 1975 at the University of California in Berkeley and holder of the Chair in Tamil Studies. He took his degree in Sanskrit at Harvard and also knows classical Greek, Latin, Russian, German, French and Malayalam, besides having a good acquaintance with Telugu and Hindi directly and all the other literatures of South Asia in translation.
In his famous ‘Statement on the Status of Tamil as a Classical Language’ way back on April 11, 2000, Hart concludes with asperity: “It seems strange to me that I should have to write an essay such as this claiming that Tamil is a classical literature — it is akin to claiming that India is a great country or Hinduism is one of world’s great religions. The status of Tamil as one of the great classical languages of the world is patently obvious to anyone who knows the subject. To deny that Tamil is a classical language is to deny a vital and central part of the greatness and richness of Indian culture.”
Most of us in India can’t seem to see the wood for the trees, because we have overdosed on coalition politics and regional tussles. But the issue of Tamil’s classical status goes well beyond the DMK or Karunanidhi’s crusading. Tamil’s antiquity is a fact, it is an incontestable truth. In Sanskrit you’d say it is ‘sat’, whose powerful and absolute meaning is ‘that which is’. Tamil’s status simply is. Recognising and proclaiming it does not in any way diminish the beauty and lustre of any of our mother tongues, nor does it demean any other regional culture.
Do you see champions of young but proud languages like French, German or Italian going berserk because Greek is recognised and honoured as the classical language of Europe? On the contrary, they celebrate their links with this older tradition and each country teaches it as a civilisational treasure. Considering that India is rather like a ‘United States of Europe’ (and the European Union is seriously studying our Constitution for pointers on how to manage itself), surely it is a matter of great civilisational pride for all Indians that no other country in the world can boast of two classical languages, Sanskrit and Tamil, sprung from its own soil?
RENUKA NARAYANAN
Source: http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=32451
http://tamil.berkeley.edu/Tamil%20Chair/TamilClassicalLanguage/TamilClassicalLgeLtr.html
Prof. George L. Hart's original essay -
April 11, 2000
Statement on the Status of Tamil as a Classical Language
Professor Maraimalai has asked me to write regarding the position of Tamil as a classical language, and I am delighted to respond to his request.
I have been a Professor of Tamil at the University of California, Berkeley, since 1975 and am currently holder of the Tamil Chair at that institution. My degree, which I received in 1970, is in Sanskrit, from Harvard, and my first employment was as a Sanskrit professor at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, in 1969. Besides Tamil and Sanskrit, I know the classical languages of Latin and Greek and have read extensively in their literatures in the original. I am also well-acquainted with comparative linguistics and the literatures of modern Europe (I know Russian, German, and French and have read extensively in those languages) as well as the literatures of modern India, which, with the exception of Tamil and some Malayalam, I have read in translation. I have spent much time discussing Telugu literature and its tradition with V. Narayanarao, one of the greatest living Telugu scholars, and so I know that tradition especially well. As a long-standing member of a South Asian Studies department, I have also been exposed to the richness of both Hindi literature, and I have read in detail about Mahadevi Varma, Tulsi, and Kabir.
I have spent many years -- most of my life (since 1963) -- studying Sanskrit. I have read in the original all of Kalidasa, Magha, and parts of Bharavi and Sri Harsa. I have also read in the original the fifth book of the Rig Veda as well as many other sections, many of the Upanisads, most of the Mahabharata, the Kathasaritsagara, Adi Sankara’s works, and many other works in Sanskrit.
I say this not because I wish to show my erudition, but rather to establish my fitness for judging whether a literature is classical. Let me state unequivocally that, by any criteria one may choose, Tamil is one of the great classical literatures and traditions of the world.
The reasons for this are many; let me consider them one by one.
First, Tamil is of considerable antiquity. It predates the literatures of other modern Indian languages by more than a thousand years. Its oldest work, the Tolkappiyam,, contains parts that, judging from the earliest Tamil inscriptions, date back to about 200 BCE. The greatest works of ancient Tamil, the Sangam anthologies and the Pattuppattu, date to the first two centuries of the current era. They are the first great secular body of poetry written in India, predating Kalidasa's works by two hundred years.
Second, Tamil constitutes the only literary tradition indigenous to India that is not derived from Sanskrit. Indeed, its literature arose before the influence of Sanskrit in the South became strong and so is qualitatively different from anything we have in Sanskrit or other Indian languages. It has its own poetic theory, its own grammatical tradition, its own esthetics, and, above all, a large body of literature that is quite unique. It shows a sort of Indian sensibility that is quite different from anything in Sanskrit or other Indian languages, and it contains its own extremely rich and vast intellectual tradition.
Third, the quality of classical Tamil literature is such that it is fit to stand beside the great literatures of Sanskrit, Greek, Latin, Chinese, Persian and Arabic. The subtlety and profundity of its works, their varied scope (Tamil is the only premodern Indian literature to treat the subaltern extensively), and their universality qualify Tamil to stand as one of the great classical traditions and literatures of the world. Everyone knows the Tirukkural, one of the world's greatest works on ethics; but this is merely one of a myriad of major and extremely varied works that comprise the Tamil classical tradition. There is not a facet of human existence that is not explored and illuminated by this great literature.
Finally, Tamil is one of the primary independent sources of modern Indian culture and tradition. I have written extensively on the influence of a Southern tradition on the Sanskrit poetic tradition. But equally important, the great sacred works of Tamil Hinduism, beginning with the Sangam Anthologies, have undergirded the development of modern Hinduism. Their ideas were taken into the Bhagavata Purana and other texts (in Telugu and Kannada as well as Sanskrit), whence they spread all over India. Tamil has its own works that are considered to be as sacred as the Vedas and that are recited alongside Vedic mantras in the great Vaisnava temples of South India (such as Tirupati). And just as Sanskrit is the source of the modern Indo-Aryan languages, classical Tamil is the source language of modern Tamil and Malayalam. As Sanskrit is the most conservative and least changed of the Indo-Aryan languages, Tamil is the most conservative of the Dravidian languages, the touchstone that linguists must consult to understand the nature and development of Dravidian.
In trying to discern why Tamil has not been recognized as a classical language, I can see only a political reason: there is a fear that if Tamil is selected as a classical language, other Indian languages may claim similar status. This is an unnecessary worry. I am well aware of the richness of the modern Indian languages -- I know that they are among the most fecund and productive languages on earth, each having begotten a modern (and often medieval) literature that can stand with any of the major literatures of the world. Yet none of them is a classical language. Like English and the other modern languages of Europe (with the exception of Greek), they rose on preexisting traditions rather late and developed in the second millennium. The fact that Greek is universally recognized as a classical language in Europe does not lead the French or the English to claim classical status for their languages.
To qualify as a classical tradition, a language must fit several criteria: it should be ancient, it should be an independent tradition that arose mostly on its own not as an offshoot of another tradition, and it must have a large and extremely rich body of ancient literature. Unlike the other modern languages of India, Tamil meets each of these requirements. It is extremely old (as old as Latin and older than Arabic); it arose as an entirely independent tradition, with almost no influence from Sanskrit or other languages; and its ancient literature is indescribably vast and rich.
It seems strange to me that I should have to write an essay such as this claiming that Tamil is a classical literature -- it is akin to claiming that India is a great country or Hinduism is one of the world's great religions. The status of Tamil as one of the great classical languages of the world is something that is patently obvious to anyone who knows the subject. To deny that Tamil is a classical language is to deny a vital and central part of the greatness and richness of Indian culture.
(Signed:)
George L. Hart
Professor of Tamil
Chair in Tamil Studies
Tuesday, July 06, 2004 at 9:20 AM
It's fabulous news that Tamil will finally get its due. But meanwhile, the most-quoted person these days in the universe of discourse must be George L. Hart, professor of Tamil since 1975 at the University of California in Berkeley and holder of the Chair in Tamil Studies. He took his degree in Sanskrit at Harvard and also knows classical Greek, Latin, Russian, German, French and Malayalam, besides having a good acquaintance with Telugu and Hindi directly and all the other literatures of South Asia in translation.
In his famous ‘Statement on the Status of Tamil as a Classical Language’ way back on April 11, 2000, Hart concludes with asperity: “It seems strange to me that I should have to write an essay such as this claiming that Tamil is a classical literature — it is akin to claiming that India is a great country or Hinduism is one of world’s great religions. The status of Tamil as one of the great classical languages of the world is patently obvious to anyone who knows the subject. To deny that Tamil is a classical language is to deny a vital and central part of the greatness and richness of Indian culture.”
Most of us in India can’t seem to see the wood for the trees, because we have overdosed on coalition politics and regional tussles. But the issue of Tamil’s classical status goes well beyond the DMK or Karunanidhi’s crusading. Tamil’s antiquity is a fact, it is an incontestable truth. In Sanskrit you’d say it is ‘sat’, whose powerful and absolute meaning is ‘that which is’. Tamil’s status simply is. Recognising and proclaiming it does not in any way diminish the beauty and lustre of any of our mother tongues, nor does it demean any other regional culture.
Do you see champions of young but proud languages like French, German or Italian going berserk because Greek is recognised and honoured as the classical language of Europe? On the contrary, they celebrate their links with this older tradition and each country teaches it as a civilisational treasure. Considering that India is rather like a ‘United States of Europe’ (and the European Union is seriously studying our Constitution for pointers on how to manage itself), surely it is a matter of great civilisational pride for all Indians that no other country in the world can boast of two classical languages, Sanskrit and Tamil, sprung from its own soil?
RENUKA NARAYANAN
Source: http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=32451
http://tamil.berkeley.edu/Tamil%20Chair/TamilClassicalLanguage/TamilClassicalLgeLtr.html
Prof. George L. Hart's original essay -
April 11, 2000
Statement on the Status of Tamil as a Classical Language
Professor Maraimalai has asked me to write regarding the position of Tamil as a classical language, and I am delighted to respond to his request.
I have been a Professor of Tamil at the University of California, Berkeley, since 1975 and am currently holder of the Tamil Chair at that institution. My degree, which I received in 1970, is in Sanskrit, from Harvard, and my first employment was as a Sanskrit professor at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, in 1969. Besides Tamil and Sanskrit, I know the classical languages of Latin and Greek and have read extensively in their literatures in the original. I am also well-acquainted with comparative linguistics and the literatures of modern Europe (I know Russian, German, and French and have read extensively in those languages) as well as the literatures of modern India, which, with the exception of Tamil and some Malayalam, I have read in translation. I have spent much time discussing Telugu literature and its tradition with V. Narayanarao, one of the greatest living Telugu scholars, and so I know that tradition especially well. As a long-standing member of a South Asian Studies department, I have also been exposed to the richness of both Hindi literature, and I have read in detail about Mahadevi Varma, Tulsi, and Kabir.
I have spent many years -- most of my life (since 1963) -- studying Sanskrit. I have read in the original all of Kalidasa, Magha, and parts of Bharavi and Sri Harsa. I have also read in the original the fifth book of the Rig Veda as well as many other sections, many of the Upanisads, most of the Mahabharata, the Kathasaritsagara, Adi Sankara’s works, and many other works in Sanskrit.
I say this not because I wish to show my erudition, but rather to establish my fitness for judging whether a literature is classical. Let me state unequivocally that, by any criteria one may choose, Tamil is one of the great classical literatures and traditions of the world.
The reasons for this are many; let me consider them one by one.
First, Tamil is of considerable antiquity. It predates the literatures of other modern Indian languages by more than a thousand years. Its oldest work, the Tolkappiyam,, contains parts that, judging from the earliest Tamil inscriptions, date back to about 200 BCE. The greatest works of ancient Tamil, the Sangam anthologies and the Pattuppattu, date to the first two centuries of the current era. They are the first great secular body of poetry written in India, predating Kalidasa's works by two hundred years.
Second, Tamil constitutes the only literary tradition indigenous to India that is not derived from Sanskrit. Indeed, its literature arose before the influence of Sanskrit in the South became strong and so is qualitatively different from anything we have in Sanskrit or other Indian languages. It has its own poetic theory, its own grammatical tradition, its own esthetics, and, above all, a large body of literature that is quite unique. It shows a sort of Indian sensibility that is quite different from anything in Sanskrit or other Indian languages, and it contains its own extremely rich and vast intellectual tradition.
Third, the quality of classical Tamil literature is such that it is fit to stand beside the great literatures of Sanskrit, Greek, Latin, Chinese, Persian and Arabic. The subtlety and profundity of its works, their varied scope (Tamil is the only premodern Indian literature to treat the subaltern extensively), and their universality qualify Tamil to stand as one of the great classical traditions and literatures of the world. Everyone knows the Tirukkural, one of the world's greatest works on ethics; but this is merely one of a myriad of major and extremely varied works that comprise the Tamil classical tradition. There is not a facet of human existence that is not explored and illuminated by this great literature.
Finally, Tamil is one of the primary independent sources of modern Indian culture and tradition. I have written extensively on the influence of a Southern tradition on the Sanskrit poetic tradition. But equally important, the great sacred works of Tamil Hinduism, beginning with the Sangam Anthologies, have undergirded the development of modern Hinduism. Their ideas were taken into the Bhagavata Purana and other texts (in Telugu and Kannada as well as Sanskrit), whence they spread all over India. Tamil has its own works that are considered to be as sacred as the Vedas and that are recited alongside Vedic mantras in the great Vaisnava temples of South India (such as Tirupati). And just as Sanskrit is the source of the modern Indo-Aryan languages, classical Tamil is the source language of modern Tamil and Malayalam. As Sanskrit is the most conservative and least changed of the Indo-Aryan languages, Tamil is the most conservative of the Dravidian languages, the touchstone that linguists must consult to understand the nature and development of Dravidian.
In trying to discern why Tamil has not been recognized as a classical language, I can see only a political reason: there is a fear that if Tamil is selected as a classical language, other Indian languages may claim similar status. This is an unnecessary worry. I am well aware of the richness of the modern Indian languages -- I know that they are among the most fecund and productive languages on earth, each having begotten a modern (and often medieval) literature that can stand with any of the major literatures of the world. Yet none of them is a classical language. Like English and the other modern languages of Europe (with the exception of Greek), they rose on preexisting traditions rather late and developed in the second millennium. The fact that Greek is universally recognized as a classical language in Europe does not lead the French or the English to claim classical status for their languages.
To qualify as a classical tradition, a language must fit several criteria: it should be ancient, it should be an independent tradition that arose mostly on its own not as an offshoot of another tradition, and it must have a large and extremely rich body of ancient literature. Unlike the other modern languages of India, Tamil meets each of these requirements. It is extremely old (as old as Latin and older than Arabic); it arose as an entirely independent tradition, with almost no influence from Sanskrit or other languages; and its ancient literature is indescribably vast and rich.
It seems strange to me that I should have to write an essay such as this claiming that Tamil is a classical literature -- it is akin to claiming that India is a great country or Hinduism is one of the world's great religions. The status of Tamil as one of the great classical languages of the world is something that is patently obvious to anyone who knows the subject. To deny that Tamil is a classical language is to deny a vital and central part of the greatness and richness of Indian culture.
(Signed:)
George L. Hart
Professor of Tamil
Chair in Tamil Studies
Tuesday, July 06, 2004 at 9:20 AM
ESPN Poll
Biggest Pop Icon of the last 25 years!
Michael Wins ESPN Poll
King of Pop voted biggest pop icon of last 25 years
Michael Jackson defeated U2 in the final round of ESPN's poll to find the biggest Pop Icon of the last 25 years.
The King of Pop had defeated Madonna and Guns 'n' Roses in previous rounds.
He's the King of Pop. No, we're not talking about present-day Michael Jackson and his rumors. We're talking about the one who was A-list of all A-list celebrities. Back when "Thriller" ruled all in 1983 -- winning eight Grammy awards. Not only did Jackson's music fly off the shelves, but the advent of MTV helped propel both to the top of the "must-have" list. You may try and joke about him now, but back in the day -- you know you tried to moon walk.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/espn25/story?page=bracket/index
at 8:46 AM
Michael Wins ESPN Poll
King of Pop voted biggest pop icon of last 25 years
Michael Jackson defeated U2 in the final round of ESPN's poll to find the biggest Pop Icon of the last 25 years.
The King of Pop had defeated Madonna and Guns 'n' Roses in previous rounds.
He's the King of Pop. No, we're not talking about present-day Michael Jackson and his rumors. We're talking about the one who was A-list of all A-list celebrities. Back when "Thriller" ruled all in 1983 -- winning eight Grammy awards. Not only did Jackson's music fly off the shelves, but the advent of MTV helped propel both to the top of the "must-have" list. You may try and joke about him now, but back in the day -- you know you tried to moon walk.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/espn25/story?page=bracket/index
at 8:46 AM
Pavitr Prabhakar is Spiderman
SPIDER-MAN INDIA – SPIDER-MAN EXTENDS FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD TO STREETS OF BOMBAY!
Bangalore, India (June, 2004)— Marvel Enterprises, Inc. & Gotham Entertainment Group –Indian publishing licensee of Marvel Comics and the leading publisher of international comic magazines in South Asia – announces the launch of Spider-Man India.
Spider-Man India interweaves the local customs, culture and mystery of modern India, with an eye to making Spider-Man’s mythology more relevant to this particular audience. Readers of this series will not see the familiar Peter Parker of Queens under the classic Spider-Man mask, but rather a new hero – a young, Indian boy named Pavitr Prabhakar. As Spider-Man, Pavitr leaps around rickshaws and scooters in Indian streets, while swinging from monuments such as the Gateway of India and the Taj Mahal.
Mumbai’s (Bombay’s) first web-swinging Super Hero will be joined by a reinterpretation of the classic Spider-Man villain, the Green Goblin -- reinvented as a Rakshasa, an Indian mythological demon.
“We feel this is one of the most exciting and unique projects in comic history,” said Gotham Entertainment Group CEO Sharad Devarajan. “Unlike traditional translations of American comics, Spider-Man India will become the first-ever ‘transcreation,’ where we reinvent the origin of a Western property like Spider-Man so that he is an Indian boy in Mumbai and dealing with local problems and challenges.”
http://www.gothamcomics.com/spiderman_india/ Monday, July 05, 2004 at 12:45 PM
Bangalore, India (June, 2004)— Marvel Enterprises, Inc. & Gotham Entertainment Group –Indian publishing licensee of Marvel Comics and the leading publisher of international comic magazines in South Asia – announces the launch of Spider-Man India.
Spider-Man India interweaves the local customs, culture and mystery of modern India, with an eye to making Spider-Man’s mythology more relevant to this particular audience. Readers of this series will not see the familiar Peter Parker of Queens under the classic Spider-Man mask, but rather a new hero – a young, Indian boy named Pavitr Prabhakar. As Spider-Man, Pavitr leaps around rickshaws and scooters in Indian streets, while swinging from monuments such as the Gateway of India and the Taj Mahal.
Mumbai’s (Bombay’s) first web-swinging Super Hero will be joined by a reinterpretation of the classic Spider-Man villain, the Green Goblin -- reinvented as a Rakshasa, an Indian mythological demon.
“We feel this is one of the most exciting and unique projects in comic history,” said Gotham Entertainment Group CEO Sharad Devarajan. “Unlike traditional translations of American comics, Spider-Man India will become the first-ever ‘transcreation,’ where we reinvent the origin of a Western property like Spider-Man so that he is an Indian boy in Mumbai and dealing with local problems and challenges.”
http://www.gothamcomics.com/spiderman_india/ Monday, July 05, 2004 at 12:45 PM
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